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Greg Turza's avatar

There in nothing in your piece, or the one you linked to, which mentions any use of force or the threat of force. In fact you write "calling Senators to persuade them. . ." and "personally pressuring Wayne County, Michigan, canvassers." Persuasion is not force or the threat of force.

In addition the riot started before he finished speaking. In that speech he called for them to protest "peacefully and patriotically" a fact which is always omitted from the anti-Trump pieces such as yours.

It was Trump who authorized the DOD to ask DC for permission to deploy National Guard troops. The mayor asked his Chief of Police who refused because his police force is trained for such things and he didn't want people in military uniforms to create the false impression that a military attempt to overthrow the government was afoot.

He was not evicted from the Whitehouse, he moved. There were no tanks in the streets. You don't have a single example of force used by Trump.

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"The legal term “self-executing” can be a bit misleading, because obviously the mere words on the page do not enforce themselves. What this principle means in practice is that the provisions of the Constitution are to be enforced by everybody. Everybody has the authority to block an unconstitutional act. In this case, a whole collection of individuals in our election system have a role in deciding who is qualified to run for office, from secretaries of state to the courts."

This is the fundamental problem with their argument right here, and of yours. Qualifications for office are set out in legislation, and matters like age and residence involved in the qualifications are settled by reference to official documents, records, and the like; they provide the factual basis in case a decision is challenged in court, as is assured under due process. Similarly, in the case of the Civil War, insurrection and rebellion were defined in accordance with Section 5 of the Confiscation Act of 1862 as holding office in the government of a state in rebellion or in the CSA government, serving as a CSA military officer, or giving aid to the CSA while living in a state in the Union, and it added the qualification that they be convicted of this--the conviction is the basis for the decision of disqualification. This article has been retained the current federal law defining particular crimes (18 U.S. Code Chapter 115) in its definition of insurrection, which retains the original wording almost word for word: https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/2383 . Trump has not been convicted of insurrection, so it is essentially a resort to governing by men not laws to say that the provision is somehow self-enacting because "we all know" what applies--in practical terms, there has to be officially acceptable documentation that the disqualification applies if the decision disqualifying someone from running for election is appealed to the courts, and even Baude and Paulsen admit as quietly as they can that this is so, as pointed out in a good response to their article (footnote numbers omitted):

"Either way, however these difficult legal and factual questions are answered, any adverse initial determination made by state or local election officials would not be final as a matter of constitutional law, for as Professors Baude and Paulsen themselves concede, however grudgingly, an adverse or

negative decision by local officials regarding a candidate’s eligibility for office would most likely be subject to judicial review by a regular court of law: “such determinations about ballot eligibility may also be subject to further judicial review.” Alas, in making this key concession, Professors Baude and Paulsen are like two poker-players with a non-verbal but information-revealing facial tick or cue--in Poker lingo, a “tell.” That is, the fact that they so reluctantly concede the possibility of judicial review of the Disqualification Clause reveals the disingenuous and politically-motivated nature of their central “self-execution” argument." https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=4564998

In short, yes, any official can make any decision he or she likes, but it has to stand up in court. What counts as insurrection when there is no question of having served the Confederacy (a matter of public record)? A court decision that the party in question violated the law in accordance with the definition given in law. There is no such decision regarding Trump, and in lieu of such a decision, it is a violation of due process to disqualify him from running for or holding office.

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